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Canada Lost The Stanley Cup?

Posted: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:26 AM by dan

More than a few of my American friends have used Tampa Bay's win in the Stanley Cup finals as an attempt to bash on Canadian hockey. 'Canada hasn't won a cup in more than a decade'.
Haven't they?
Yes geographically the cup has not been won by a team north of the border. But where do you think the cup spends most of its time in the off-season? Canada. Each players gets a day (or week, some amount of time) to bring the cup to their home town. Which means that the cup will spend 2 days south of the border this summer.
Thats right, Tampa Bay has 19 Canadians and only 2 Americans.
Ben Clymer (5 Games, 0 points, 2 shots)
John Grahame (1 Game (only 34 minutes), 3.54 GAA, 0.884 Save %)

And here are some interesting numbers related to the NHL's yearly hardware giveaway. Big thanks to Gord for the numbers.

There have been 112 Stanley Cups:

111 Canadian Captains.
107 Canadian goalies.
39 Conn Smythe Winners, 37 Canadians.

Can you name the non-Canadians? One of the Conn Smythe winners is easy, the other, won back in 1994...
You can email me at daforsyth !at! objectsharp.com if you want the answers.



49 Norris Trophy Winners, 39 Canadians.
Lidstrom 3 times, Chelios 3 times, Leetch twice, Rod Langway twice (actually born in Taiwan).

76 Vezina Winners, 65 Canadians.
Before 1982 this was essentially the Jennings and I believe that the 100+ Goalies that received the Vezina prior to 1982 are all Canadian. I could be wrong on a couple though.
Also of note is that of the 11 non-Canadians winners, 6 of them are Hasek.

30 Jack Adams, 30 Canadians. This year might be a first, but my vote is with Sutter.

33 Lester B. Pearson Awards (NHLPA voted MVP), 27 Canadians. Jagr twice, Hasek twice, Naslund, Federov. Hull may be a legal american, but he was born and bred on Canadian hockey so I don't count him as an exception.

80 Years of Hart Trophies. 73 Canadians. Hasek twice, Jagr, Forsberg, Federov, Mikita twice. Once again I count Hull as a Canadian.

86 Scoring Leaders/Art Ross, 76 Canadians. Jagr 5 times, Mikita 4 times, Forsberg once. For this I'm hazy on the pre-1960 winners, but I'm fairly certain they were all Canadian.

So there are the numbers, also of note though is that most news outlets are reporting that Calgary had up to 5000 more people at their 'we lost' party than Tampa Bay had for their 'we won' party...

Don't get me wrong, I would have loved Calgary to win the Cup, but by the same token lets not pretend this is an Olympic Gold Medal won by a team of all Americans..... back in 1980.....


Thanks to Dave for the flag.

Comments

  • dan June 10, 2004 1:32 PM

    Just an addendum to your blog concerning the Scoring Leaders/Art Ross recipients(as you mentioned you were a bit hazy on the topic)

    Dave "Sweeney" Schriner deserves a mention as he was born in Russia, though he did grow up in Canada and was the scoring leader in both the 35/36 and 36/37 seasons. Effectively Canadian.

    (off topic) Also, of the early Art Ross winners who played for American teams, it seems an inordinate number of them are from Saskatchewan.

  • dan June 10, 2004 1:58 PM

    Actually there are a good number of people in the same situation as Schriner. Various trophies have been given to people born outside of Canada that I consider to be Canadian players, including an inordinate amount of Scots and Irish. It seems that a large part of Canadian Hockey history involves immigrants/first-generation Canadians, a fact that isn't too surprising really.

  • dan June 11, 2004 9:32 AM

    ------------ SPOILER -------------

    Had a few people email me for the answers, so here they are.

    111 Canadian Captains.
    - Darian Hatcher with the Dallas Stars in 1999

    107 Canadian goalies.
    - The Boolin Wall, Hasek, Barasso (x2), Richter

    39 Conn Smythe Winners, 37 Canadians.
    - Lidstrom, Leetch (1994)

  • TrackBack June 11, 2004 2:56 PM

    Got this link from Craig Flannigan - makes me feel a LITTLE better about a recent event....

  • dan June 14, 2004 5:31 PM

    Hilarious! :) Hey don't worry, most Americans that follow hockey are well aware of the canadian influence. I mean, it's not like many kids in Tampa Bay grow up playing on a frozen lake..

    Now, about those Expos.... ;)

  • dan June 14, 2004 7:39 PM

    hahaha well I guess thats true, the problem is those American's who only follow it enough to read in the paper that the US won ;)

    This is just my shot at re-education, so spread the word.

    As for the expos, can't help you there, I'm a Toronto boy :)

  • dan April 24, 2005 6:08 PM

    this is really cool

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